UPDATE MAY 2016
An Internet troll who claims to have found deep divisions among factions of the Left on
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Posting on the sometimes-dubious message board 4chan, the anonymous poster wrote a post entitled, “Let’s troll Bernie and Hillary supporters systematically,” where the writer says he/she posed as a Democratic voter and trolled supporters of Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton in an effort to deepen divisions and help Trump secure a victory in November.
“We need to take advantage of this. This is Trump’s gift,” the 4chan troll wrote. “If we’re serious about a Trump presidency we need to start infiltrating their conversations in order to sow more divison (sic). I’m talking systematic and long-term /mischief/, not just a hew minutes trolling dumbass SJW’s. Look at the chaos and damage I was able to make yesterday, just one person, with no real rudeness in my replies. Imagine that writ large: My account is @realJohnMilIer.”
“SJW” stands for “social justice warrior.”
The Twitter account for “real John Miller” indeed seems to show activity celebrating divisions among Clinton and Sanders supporters.
A hashtag to get Bernvictims to try to turn the Philly DNC convention into their own Boston Tea Party - using revolution imagery.
These morons are using Trump's nickname for her and don't see how that helps him. @ScottAdamsSays 3D-pilled me more than anyone in 2015.
“John Miller” is the alter-ego that Trump has been accused of bizarrely impersonating with reporters in the past. The 4chan user suggests fellow Trump supporters do three things:
1.If hundreds of accounts on the Hillary or Bernie/Stein side were saying even worse things it’d make the divisions deeper. 2.If we got people to agree with us the opposing sides would blast each other as dangerous extremists but each would defend horrible tweets. 3. Even if a few or a lot of us were caught, it would increase distrust tremendously among ANYONE on the opposing side.
The user then says he/she was amazed to see the vitriol on the Left.
“It’s amazing to see them using their SJW tactics against each other, and having to defend themselves from their own tactics,” the user wrote. “They don’t know how to respond so they just spew more blind hatred and vitriol. They fighting with each other like they’re fighting white nationalists. It’s bizarre. It’s not just virtue-signalling, it’s blind hatred and panic. I encourage everyone to read the vitriol about the Matt Bruenig firing.”
Bruenig was a blogger for the progressive think tank Demos, and was fired for calling a Clinton supporter a “scumbag,” Politico reports.
The user then started brainstorming Twitter hashtags to ignite fury among factions on the Left, like #BloodOnHillarysHands and #HillaryKillsPOC. In the discussion that followed, 4chan users tried to conceive schemes to get Sanders to run on a third-party ticket against Clinton in order to defeat them both.
“[Green Party candidate Jill] Stein said she will offer Bernie the VP slot if he wants it. He said months ago he would support the nominee but this week MSNBC hinted he was looking for an excuse or reason to not do so, but in a way that gives him plausible deniability,” one user wrote. “Green party has no chance to win, they’re only on like 30 state ballots, but it would cause a shitstorm. #SteinSanders and #SteinSanders2016 could be a great goal, but I think first we should focus on deepening the divide.”
Screenshots of conversation can be viewed by clicking on the photos below:
UPDATE MAY 2015
The Right Baits the Left to Turn Against Hillary Clinton
Ignorant, peevish, narrow-minded, misinformed, livid, intolerant, they are an army of everything that's wrong with America, denizens of a weird trickster God who speaks to them with words they don't completely understand, or tints their natural interior wrath with righteous anger conferred by snake-oil preachers or haughty cable charlatans either crass or crazed, or just slyly in it for the money, or all of the above.
This minority wouldn't matter much except they are whipped into a frenzy and 'played' by cynical manipulators like Frank Luntz, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck who, in turn, wouldn't have much impact without the billions of dollars spent to spread their fetid message from such right-wing corporatists as Fox News owner Rupert Murdoch and the Koch brothers.
But beneath the second-tier video fictions of James O’Keefe and Andrew Breitbart, and the hollow-headed bleating of the various ozone-inhabiting creatures who will never be president like Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin, and even in the shadow of the disingenuous theocratic mushpile that is David Barton’s twisted view of our history, exists a well-funded Republican netherworld of PR propagandists and marketing hucksters busy dreaming up unethical new ways to undercut Obama and the Democrats.
One of these is Doug Goetzloe, an anti-tax right-wing talk show host and former Young Republican who heads up Advantage Consultants. Here is the copy from one of his ads advising his conservative clients to ‘flood the zone’ on progressive sites:
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-- See the Advantage Consultants ad at:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6266805
Then there’s Chip Griffin, head of the now defunct NetVocates that planted comments as Advantage Consultants does back in 2005, and still a Republican activist and PR man who was once associated with the far-right TownHall.com. Griffin is no doubt back on the scene as a sock-puppet master for the 2012 elections -- it’s what he does for a living.
A poster named TomCADem recently made these points at Democratic Underground:
“However, what is often ignored are right wing/corporate funded political operatives generating attacks on Democrats from the ‘left’ while giving Republicans a free pass. Of course, these operatives do not announce their intentions, but instead simply launch attacks on Democrats from the left while largely ignoring the far more extreme positions of Republicans or suggesting that there is no difference between Democrats and Republicans. However, occasionally, such operatives are caught engaging in these fraudulent acts.
“The question in 2012 with Republicans and corporate American intent on taking back the White House, killing unions, and privatizing Medicare, [is] how far will Republicans and corporate propaganda groups go in their efforts to organize sock puppet attacks on Democrats from the left in order to undermine support for Democrats among liberals?”
-- Posted in “‘Liberal’ Sock Puppets – Right Wing/Corporate Operatives Attacking Democrats From The ‘Left’,” April 26, 2011.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x967422
How far? The GOP is desperate to enact their anti-democratic corporate agenda as quickly as possible as they know the general public is catching onto them -- they will go as far as mountains of corporate money and a total lack of conscience or ethics will take them.
Some on the progressive side are already well aware that the GOP is, and has been at least since 2005, mounting a large and well-funded campaign to plant phony 'progressives sick of the Dems' comments on various liberal sites to split the vote. Their masters know the psychology well: a percentage of the population, no matter what their politics, is 'suggestible,' meaning if they read a string of comments excoriating ALL Democrats as frauds and liars, that will become their opinion, if nothing to the contrary is offered. These 'suggestibles' are not necessarily stupid, but they do readily conform to whatever opinion is dominant. That's why the GOP, through their paid operatives, flood progressive sites with so-called 'former Democrats' and 'angry progressives' who do nothing but harp on how horrible the Democrats and Obama are. It's insidious and underhanded, but look at who's doing it -- the party of Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder and Ohio Gov. John Kasich. All of them were elected on a promise of jobs and better times, only to use their office to reward the wealthy with tax cuts and lucrative contracts privatizing public services at the expense of middle-class families who work for a living.
At one time, some of the 'tells' of the right-wing ‘sock puppet’ troll was their use of terms such as 'DemoRATS' or ‘Demonrats’ for Democrats, and their repeatedly calling Obama 'Obummer,' 'Obomber' or 'Obomba.' But they've mostly changed that language as actual progressives began to notice those repeated constructions and the fetid and simpleminded opinions attached to them. Some current 'tells' are when they don't mention the GOP at all, or claim both parties are just as 'evil,' or try to shut down the conversation with insults, or push readers to vote for any third party, or say that they'd rather vote for a Republican than a Democrat, or make statements with no factual basis, or refer you to a right-wing website to ‘confirm’ their assertions.
Incidentally, there is no comparable effort by the left: if you try to post comments opposing the GOP or corporatists at right-wing sites, in most cases you will quickly be banned from posting there and your comments removed. They aren't about to let the other side play their game on them, even if we had the money to fund such slimy baloney and the inclination to do so.
Our only protection against such ersatz assaults is to use our heads and common sense: if someone is a little ‘too’ enraged at Obama and the Democrats, be suspicious, especially if they never talk about Republicans. Ask them a couple of polite intelligent questions on the comment thread’s topic; if they respond by condemning or insulting you for questioning them rather than engaging you, they’re likely a sock-puppet troll; it’s in their nature to consider any question or disagreement as tantamount to treason. Also, if they keep reposting basically the same idea in one comment thread, they’re probably a sock-puppet troll; they’ve been instructed by their masters that repetition works. And don’t be swayed if they accuse you of being a ‘shill’ or ‘troll’ for questioning them -- they are trained to do that.
Finally, always remember: you can pretend to be a progressive, but you can’t pretend to be smart, and these paid ‘blog warriors’ decidedly aren’t.
"The key point is that ever since the Reagan years, the Republican Party has been dominated by radicals - ideologues and/or apparatchiks who, at a fundamental level, do not accept anyone else’s right to govern."
-- Paul Krugman, "The Politics of Spite," NY Times, Oct. 5, 2009.
source: http://readersupportednews.org
© 2011 RS Janes.
Just remember to be careful because there are actual leftists who are not pleased at Obama's record on trade or human rights--but you could say that about any Democrat since Jimmy Carter, really. Remember what is said here about fussing at Democrats while giving Republicans a free pass. A genuine leftist won't do the latter.
ReplyDeleteP.S. I'd love to see the definition of socialism in the header to this blog changed to something nearer the actual definition of socialism, please. And while you're at it, read you some George Lakoff. Accepting the right-wing frame on socialism is not acceptable, period.
Not saying you have to *be* socialist (and the notion that Obama is one is just plain laughable)--but if you're going to decide you're "not" something, know exactly what ideology you are disclaiming.
ReplyDeleteAnd, purchase a Dictionary, and use it to understand the real definition of words that you don't really know!
Deleteuh...Dana Seilhan, I see no "definition of socialism" in the header. I do read "I am not a socialist?" Am I missing something?
ReplyDeleteDana Seilhan is my neighbor. She is a paid troll and I believe is a heroin addict. Please ignore her. She brings home multiple black men from the street at night..It worries us.
ReplyDeleteDo you have a problem with black men?
DeleteGo back under your bridge, troll! You do not belong here!
Diana is a paid GOP Troll and hack proof of what the blog is saying http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/charleston/Profile?oid=4689431
ReplyDeleteRobert is a polyp in my ass canal, he thrives off of stuck shit on the walls of my colon. I am using obamacare to eradicate his stuck jaw probably by laser burning. Enjoy your shit esting life robert I am goingbtobhave to remove you.
ReplyDeleteWhat's the matter Dana Seihan can't stand that someone exposed you for the right wing filth you are? Only a right wing coward would make a personal attack on someone. So whose the coward now eh? I am happy more and more people are standing up to you right wing lying freaks. You can't govern, you can't rule fairly, you are hateful, homophobic but I take comfort in knowing that your party is dying out
ReplyDeleteTrolls are paid? Not all that surprising ...
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